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khazak mokl
Amarr Black Viper Nomads
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Posted - 2011.02.27 16:51:00 -
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We did have a out of game version that Dan wrote but some people in Aharm never liked that one either as it contained 'secret stuff'they would have preffered to keep from the rest of the community. This tool was originally made for our own corps use in navigating WHs and various features were added over time like the number of jumps/kills in a system (like dotlan and other sites) Splodger has made it public as is his right since he put all the work into it. I can say that I have 100% confidence in his motives which were not to secretly track people and gank them in there noob ships but to help the EVE community as a whole. As a previous poster mentioned we actively try and help people to get into WH's and make isk/have a good time. The way we see it is the more people are in this part of the game, the more people we will eventually run into and hopefully have a good fight or two along the way.
Saying all this, the program is evolving still and having new stuff added constantly and maybe splodge will publish a out of game version if he feels like it but if he doesnt I wouldnt blame him as he is under no obligation to do anything he doesnt want to. This is after all a game and games shud be FUN.
Khaz
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khazak mokl
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Posted - 2011.02.27 20:44:00 -
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So you are admitting there is 'secret information' that your trying to keep a lid on concerning wormholes and how to navigate though them?
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khazak mokl
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Posted - 2011.02.28 08:28:00 -
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Kirian and his army of alts did indeed come up with the original Wh spread sheet and saw how wormholes are connected and the scanning sizes of about 65% or more of the sig sizes. Two step then came up with a basic out of game program similar to the one dan posted. Both these versions had holes of missing data in them that we at BVN have added to since the formation of our corp and splodger personally has written that tool for our own corps use. Anyone saying he stole his version from AHARM is being pretty silly in my oppinion. It would be like comparing the wheel to a motor car. Ok you cant have a car without the wheel but it gets a bit ridiculous from there. We open and close alot of WH's every day looking for targets to kill or routes out to empire and this tool lets us see the number of jumps or recent sleeper kills or general activity in a system so we can decide weather its worth keeping or cycling to another one.(and this information does not come from splodgers server it comes from CCP) The tool is not the be all and end all of WH's as it only predicts the static exit from a WH and not all the regionals or K162's which are random and therefor impossible to predict(unless you work for CCP which we dont)
The final thing I would like to say is that BVN hunt for targets ligitemately needing no use of exploits( in game or otherwise) and to surgest otherwise is silly. People complain day in day out that WH's suck because of the amount of scanning it takes to move about so splodger released this to help the community as a whole.
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khazak mokl
Amarr Black Viper Nomads
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Posted - 2011.02.28 20:21:00 -
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I think if I wanted to go to the trouble of tracking someone I would use A tracking agent ingame which will tell me the same stuff, the talk that we use it to track people using it is just untrue and I dont even know if its possible as the question had never come up b4 to me.
Glad its of use raid'en. Shud help you get about selling ur WH's
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khazak mokl
Amarr Black Viper Nomads
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Posted - 2011.03.01 10:28:00 -
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This app uses no more info than using jove labs or dotlan when u trust those sites to use the extra features like route planning. It is not a tarp and how can you find someone in a WH when spawns to a system are random and only the K-space side of things predictable? We stay in WH's pretty much 24/7 unless its poping out to buy/sell stuff so I dont really know how you think we can exploit this. As to Dans post that sounded like he was gloating about killing stuff, half the stuff was in nullsec and the other stuff was just sat afk in space and got caught with there pants down. You can only predict what type of WH's the system has not exactly where its going to lead so this is pretty much just scare-mongering.
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khazak mokl
Amarr Black Viper Nomads
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Posted - 2011.03.01 10:42:00 -
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I didnt realise were we notorious lol. To small and down the pecking chain in WH life to be noticed.
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khazak mokl
Amarr Black Viper Nomads
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Posted - 2011.03.01 11:11:00 -
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You guys killed me? Guess everyone gets caught now and then if ur just scouting 99% of the time. But if we caught you to I guess we're even Most of our time is spent opening and closing C3's all day looking for pew and mainly it goes like this:- 1. I get a new hole and jump in. 2. Dscan to see if its occupied and check splodgers site to see if there has been recent jumps/sleeper kills.(same as we used to do from jove labs before splodge added the feature to his site) 3. If theres sleeper kills we stay cloaky and dscan them out for pew 4. If there been recent jumps but no signs of ships we scan out all the size 10s looking for K162s and if we can be arsed scan out the other sigs to for regionals. 5.Jump into connecting systems (WH's/Low?Null)till we find pew. 6. If no pew is found close the static and go to stage 1 lol.
Theres no mystrey in it or getting peoples super secret locations to gank them in there T1 scanning Frigs. Its just statistics. IF you open and close enough holes you will find targets. Some friday nights we have 5 or more people sat there on a WH opening and closing and not finding jack squat all night and eventually all log off bored.
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khazak mokl
Amarr Black Viper Nomads
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Posted - 2011.07.10 07:19:00 -
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Bump as some people still scan out Every signiture in the Wormhole to try and find the static out. Why spend all day scanning and then wanting to kill urself when you can do it in 10th of the time with this tool.
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